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post #31 of 487 (permalink) Old 05-13-2011, 08:48 PM Thread Starter
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Thomas, I took your picks and came up with the following:
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Americas       Europe/Africa    Asia         Miscellaneous 
Dominican Rep  Germany          Taiwan       Canada
Brazil         Czech Republic   Philippines  Australia
Nicaragua      South Africa     Thailand     Great Britain
Panama         Italy            China        Colombia 
Teams at the top are host nations based on the news and some speculation on my part. I tried keeping two 09 WBC participants in each group. I see only one problem with this set up; will China play in Taiwan? China always seems to have an excuse not to play there and Taiwan is the only WBC Qualifier host that has been announced so far.


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post #32 of 487 (permalink) Old 05-13-2011, 11:21 PM
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Yeah, the politics between Taiwan and China I'd imagine would hold up China ever playing Chinese Taipei in Taiwan which certainly complicates things, which is a shame because obviously that creates a bit of a rivalry.

I also like the idea of Colombia and Panama playing each other due to the history there... otherwise I like the way you have them grouped regionally.
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now if we believe the other report that there will be teams from different continents in each pool and assume China wont play in Taiwan, my groups would look something like this:

*=host

*Taiwan (BFA)
Italy (CEB)
Nicaragua (COPABE)
Philippines (BFA)

*Canada (COPABE)
China (BFA)
Britain (CEB)
Thailand (BFA)

*Panama (COPABE)
Australia (BCO)
Colombia (COPABE)
Czech Republic (CEB)

*Dominican Republic (COPABE)
South Africa (ABSA)
Brazil (COPABE)
Germany (CEB)
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^ Nice grouping. I decided to use FIFA style pots to select groups. Here are the pots with your picks:

IBAF top 4 ranked

Taiwan
Canada
Nicaragua
Panama

Europe
Italy
Germany
Great Britain
Czech Republic

Asia-Pacific

Australia
China
Thailand
Philippines

Americas/Africa

Dominican Rep
South Africa
Colombia
Brazil

Then established the following rules:
  • Only 1 team from a pot per group
  • Two previous WBC participants per group
  • At least three Confederations represented in each group

Resulting in...

*Taiwan
Czech Republic
Philippines
Dominican Rep

*Canada
Great Britain
China
Brazil

*Panama
Italy
Thailand
Colombia

Nicaragua
*Germany
Australia
South Africa

My results are very similar to yours...


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post #35 of 487 (permalink) Old 05-22-2011, 03:48 AM
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Hello international baseball fans! Great to see this forum online. Been lurking for some time. Living in New Zealand and have many friends in their growing baseball program here. It's the fastest moving sport in the nation, and my friends believe they have a strong chance to get into the WBC qualifiers. They believe their 40-person roster they've put together will be a very strong team that has a chance to surprise quite a few people and teams. They have a number of college/high school and professional and ex-professional players on their roster...which few people know. If they are grouped in Asia, they believe they/we are behind Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Australia and China--and not very far behind China at that! I've been following closely since they brought out Curtis Granderson from the Yankees. Baseball really spiked ever since, and everyone here loves baseball and everyone has played softball. The transition for the high-level, fast-pitch softball players is not a difficult one, and the country's last two national teams at younger age levels has been a combination of baseball and softball players, and they've played quite well against Australia and Australian top teams. I've even started playing, and I love it. Exciting times here, so they hope--and I hope--New Zealand is invited in. Baseball will skyrocket here, and it will firm up Oceania as being a high-growth area for the game. In the past, it's been only Australia--with a few Guam players who made it. New Zealand can move quickly in this game, take my word. Look forward to going back and forth with everyone here until and after the big announcements are made. This invite could make or break the next five years of the game here in our country. Thanks for the great forum!!!
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^ I would love to see New Zealand to be involved with qualifying.....

just did some research of players that would maybe be involved.....

Scott Campbell (Doesn't appear to be Active, but played AAA in the BlueJays System)
Scott Richmond (Toronto, dual Canadian and New Zealand Citizenship... would opt for Canada over NZ? was on 2009 Canada WBC Team and did not play)
Moko Moanaroa (Red Sox System Gulf Coast League 2010)
Boss Moanaroa (Red Sox System Gulf Coast League 2010)
Beau Te Wera Bishop (Red Sox 2011 Signing)
Travis Wilson (was in Braves Systems until 2004)
Daniel Lamb-Hunt (played for Brisbane in 2010)
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Exactly right, Thomas. The country hopes Richmond plays for NZ. And there is another solid group of ballplayers playing at medium to high level colleges and high schools in America and Canada at this very moment. Plus, the Kennelly brothers from Australia who are with the Phillies and Braves are the sons of a Kiwi mother and father--and there's more. The nation has high hopes. Three more of our top players have been scouted by the Australian Baseball League and it appears that at least two will play. A handful of our top softball players can make the jump, we're certain. They are world-class athletes--just as Te Wera and Travis were coming over to baseball. It's an exciting time--and thank you for your note. It's spot on!
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post #38 of 487 (permalink) Old 05-30-2011, 01:00 AM
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New Zealand will be in and it will make a real difference in the country. They could become a genuine force in the next decade or so.
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post #39 of 487 (permalink) Old 06-01-2011, 04:12 PM
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New Zealand is targeting Scott Richmond, and Scott Campbell is still active. The 4 hosts places are Colombia, Canada, Chinese Taipei (Taiwan) and South Africa.

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post #40 of 487 (permalink) Old 06-01-2011, 04:18 PM
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Very interesting that South Africa gets to host.... due to their location being so far from the other teams I wouldn't have expected that....
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