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Will the movie Moneyball help boost revenue for next year for the A's?


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Doubt it, they need a new stadium and a team that can score runs. Got some great young pitching on that team though.




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They do have great pitching. There stadium is the one with no upper deck seats?


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This is their ballpark. It's a piece of crap. Funny thing is it didn't always look like that till Al Davis renovated it in the mid 90's so it better fit the Raiders and not just the A's.

Here is how it used to look.



Have you ever watched the movie Angels in the Outfield? That move, even though it was about the Angels, was actually filmed there.




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Oh yeah,I didn't know that. I have seen the movie a few times actually.


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Moneyball was a great money, but it won't do anything for the A's revenue. It will boost Brad Pitt's revenue up though.


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Here is a more truthful take on Moneyball...

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The movie, and to a lesser extent the book, amplifies this debate, portraying Beane as Luke Skywalker and scouts as stormtroopers. That may make for higher drama, but it doesn’t really convey the truth and does something of a disservice to the real people involved.

Beane and Paul DePodesta, Beane’s top assistant during the time Lewis reported the book, weren’t focused on building a better mouse trap. They were simply trying to construct an affordable one. For them, it was never about man vs. machine, because “there are a lot of human emotions . . . that go into the decisions we make,” DePodesta said in a phone interview Monday. “There are human elements that go into the development of players.

“It’s probably a little dangerous if we just disregard that. On the other hand, there’s no question in my mind that the data is important. Virtually everybody in the industry at this point would agree.”

DePodesta wisely chose not to have his name attached to the movie, in which the character based on him is a shy and socially awkward geek. He’s someone who has no place in the sports world — except for what his big brain can offer the cool guys. Actor Jonah Hill did a fine job with the fictional character named Peter Brand, supposedly a composite of several Athletics assistants under Beane. In actuality, he’s DePodesta. Except he really isn’t — not the guy I know, anyway....

DePodesta didn’t advocate scrapping baseball’s traditional evaluation system. Beane instructed him to think outside of the box, and “we always felt as though what we were doing was unique to Oakland,” DePodesta, now vice president of player development and scouting for the New York Mets, said.

Baseball executives are “constantly trying to predict the future performance of human beings. We’re trying to get our arms around that uncertainty. Scouts really help you deal with that uncertainty. On the other hand, we looked at it and said, ‘How can we further decrease that uncertainty?’ And being able to use data was one of the ways we could do that. It wasn’t to replace anything else. It was only to further augment what we were already doing and get a better grasp of the unpredictability.”

My biggest gripe with both the book and movie is that Lewis and the filmmakers essentially ignore the contributions of players who don’t support their underdog narrative. Any discussion of those Athletics teams should start with their outstanding starting rotation, led by Tim Hudson, Mark Mulder and Barry Zito. They’re hardly mentioned or seen on screen.

Lewis’s supporters argue he was doing what writers do: using only the facts that support his premise. There’s no doubt he wrote a compelling book that’s now a critically acclaimed movie and a box office hit.

But it’s intellectually dishonest to attribute the Athletics’ success during that era solely to calculator work while ignoring the contributions of players such as Hudson, Mulder and Zito. That’s like having an in-depth discussion about Joe Gibbs’s three Super Bowl victories without mentioning the Hogs.

“No doubt,” said DePodesta, still the smartest person in the room. “I agree with that.”
Read complete article @ ‘Moneyball’ is compelling, but leaves out much of the real story - The Washington Post


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