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post #11 of 36 (permalink) Old 06-18-2007, 10:08 PM
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06/18/2007 7:36 PM ET
Notes: Lo Duca in lineup after plunking
Milledge making progress; Alou not likely ready before July
NEW YORK -- One poorly placed pitch wasn't enough to keep Paul Lo Duca out of the Mets lineup. Neither were four poorly placed pitches, for that matter.
Lo Duca was back in the lineup on Monday, less than a day after taking a Chien-Ming Wang pitch off his left elbow -- the fourth such occasion he's been nailed there this season.

"Paulie's pretty tough," said Mets manager Willie Randolph. "He took a pretty good shot off the elbow."

Lo Duca was back in his customary two-hole for the second straight night, after settling lower down the lineup for most of the past two months. Randolph had penciled him into the lineup before even talking to Lo Duca, judging his readiness more on reputation than fact. Lo Duca wasn't so sure, until after icing the elbow and taking some non-compromised swings in the batting cage.

"It depends how much [pain] you can tolerate," Randolph said. "It's a bruise, so it's basically the discomfort of swinging the bat. If you can tolerate whatever pain you feel, you can play."

Outfield issues: Former top prospect Lastings Milledge's strained right foot is slowly healing, according to Mets general manager Omar Minaya. Milledge resumed baseball activities on Friday for the first time since injuring the foot with Triple-A New Orleans, and could begin a rehab assignment with Class A St. Lucie as early as next week.

Starting left fielder Moises Alou isn't faring quite as well. Alou is currently rehabbing with a physical therapist in New York, and when the program is finished -- likely sometime next week -- he will travel to Florida to begin his rehab. The possibility of Alou returning before mid-July remains slim.

As for the recently maligned Carlos Beltran, he'll continue to play through his strained left quad, and Minaya said he has no plans to give his center fielder some rest. Even if -- or when -- Alou and primary backup Endy Chavez are healthy, that situation isn't likely to change.

"If we had a 50-game lead," Minaya said, "you'd have to consider that."

Stiff competition During a losing stretch of this magnitude, the blame game knows no bounds. And while most of its targets can be helped, the schedule assuredly cannot.

The Mets are smack in the middle of a month that, heading into the year, appeared to be their toughest, and is certainly panning out that way. The Tigers, Dodgers and Yankees were all playoff teams last year, as were the team's three upcoming opponents, the Twins, Athletics and Cardinals. Only the Padres are missing from last year's postseason crew -- the Mets don't see them until a West Coast swing in mid-July.

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Aside from the Cardinals, whose post-World Series troubles have been, well, troubling, the rest of that pack is right back on pace. The Yankees are now 9-1 over their past 10 games, with the Dodgers and Tigers a combined 20 games over .500 heading into Monday's play. Both of those teams hold the Wild Card lead in their respective leagues -- and both sport better records than the Mets, despite New York's first place standing.

"Not to use this as an excuse, but we haven't been playing the Bad News Bears," said first baseman Carlos Delgado. "It's been a tough stretch. Everybody in this room will tell you that over the course of your career, you're going to run into some stretches like this."

Coaching Manuel: Pardon Mets bench coach Jerry Manuel if he's got one eye trained on Baltimore.

With the Orioles in search of a new manager after dismissing Sam Perlozzo on Monday, Manuel is a potential candidate for the job. Though Minaya said he has not yet been contacted regarding his bench coach, Manuel's managerial history -- he was American League Manager of the Year while with the White Sox in 2000 -- could warrant a call.

"Jerry Manuel deserves to manage in this league," Randolph said. "I would hate to lose him, of course, but he's a solid baseball man."

Coming up: Johan Santana, the premier second-half pitcher in the game, hasn't won in three starts since May 28. But it still is the first half. He has beaten the Mets in his two starts against them in 2002 and '04. The Mets won 11 of the first 14 games in which they were opposed by a left-handed starter this season. They have lost the subsequent seven. Jorge Sosa starts for the Mets in the 7:10 p.m. ET game.

Looks like alou is out for a bit.

mets have a chance to knock around santana tommorow
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post #12 of 36 (permalink) Old 06-18-2007, 10:15 PM
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J Reyes		SS	4	1	2	0	1
P Lo Duca	C	5	1	2	2	0
C Beltran	CF	5	1	1	1	0
D Wright	3B	5	0	3	1	0
C Delgado	1B	4	1	2	1	1
S Green		RF	4	1	2	0	0
C Gomez		RF	0	0	0	1	0
J Valentin	2B	5	1	1	0	0
R Ledee		LF	3	2	2	2	1
J Maine		P	2	0	0	0	0
P Feliciano	P	0	0	0	0	0
R Gotay		PH	1	0	0	0	0
A Heilman	P	0	0	0	0	0
TOTALS			38	8	15	8	3

J Maine (W, 7-4)	7.1	4	1	1	2	4	2.90
P Feliciano		0.2	1	0	0	0	1	1.80
A Heilman		1	0	0	0	0	0	4.18

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maine pitched very well tonight. hopefully he can keep it up. the mets played great tonight. hopefully they can continue to play like this through this tough stretch. they showed offense tonight, where has that been all of june?!? reyes stole his 38th base tonight, which is phenomenal. he'll probably have over 50 before the all-star break. lets have a sosa win tonight (its 12:18 a.m. right now) and win this series. we have to start winning some series.
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last nights game summary (6/18/07):

NEW YORK -- Even Paul Lo Duca, try as he might, couldn't help but notice.
The Mets catcher returned home with the rest of his team on Monday to find Shea Stadium transformed into a makeshift campaign headquarters. Incessantly blaring over the loudspeaker were pleas to vote Lo Duca into next month's All-Star Game, his grinning mug plastered constantly on the scoreboard between innings.

A shameless plug, perhaps, but nine innings later it mattered little. Lo Duca had let his bat do the talking, delivering a key hit to give the Mets a rare June win -- and an even rarer June blowout -- 8-1 over the Twins.

"It was pretty fun," laughed Lo Duca. "I had a couple of Twins hitters come up and say they voted for me before they came up to bat."

And why not? Lo Duca's two-run single in the sixth -- proof that his bruised left elbow was just fine -- blew open a close game, allowing the Mets to truly exhale for the first time in weeks. This was no longer a win, it was a bludgeoning, and it was precisely what the struggling Mets needed.

Lo Duca's hit was one of two for the catcher, who also scored during a late rally. Perhaps he was inspired by all that All-Star talk -- "I voted five times," admitted first baseman Carlos Delgado -- or perhaps he was just plain sick of losing.

"We have too good of a lineup, and I think we've been giving away at-bats, myself included," Lo Duca said. "This keeps the gray hairs away, I guess."

The gray hairs didn't even make an appearance on Monday, thanks in large part to starter John Maine. The right-hander -- under Lo Duca's guidance -- tossed a nearly flawless 7 1/3 innings, his only blemish coming some time after he took a seat on the bench. Reliever Pedro Feliciano allowed an inherited run to strip some of the shine off Maine's night, but at that point, it hardly mattered.

Maine allowed just four singles -- two of them infield hits -- and two walks, lowering his ERA back below three, six days after he pushed it over that mark for the first time all year.

Similar to the Mets but on a smaller scale, Maine had lost four of his last five decisions heading into the night. But this win was so strong, so convincing, that such a streak already seems buried deep in the past.

"The results and the outcome were better," Maine said. "I got away with a few pitches here and there, but I think that maybe things are starting to change for everybody."

They're changing for Carlos Beltran, whose run-scoring double gave him just his second extra-base hit and second RBI of the month. They're changing for Carlos Delgado, whose two hits -- including a home run -- gave him five knocks in the past three games after needing seven prior games just to get four. And they're even changing for Ricky Ledee, whose home run gave him four hits on the season -- one more than he amassed all of last year.

Much of that offense, including Ledee's blast, came in the eighth, well after Lo Duca had broken the game open in the fourth. The Mets tacked on four more runs late in the game, allowing them to really relax for the first time in weeks. Closer Billy Wagner didn't even warm up -- the first time that's happened in a Mets win since June 2 -- and the potential effect it could have on the team is telling.

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Credit most of those soothed worries to Lo Duca, who boosted the Mets just with his presence. After taking a pitch off his left elbow on Sunday, Lo Duca's status was hanging in the humid air all day.

"To be honest with you, I didn't even think I was going to play this morning when I woke up," Lo Duca said. "I went to the cage to hit and it was bothering me a little bit, but it was good enough to play."

And good enough to win. Lo Duca's key hit came on an 0-2 count, forcing him to shorten up and drive the ball the other way.

"He's almost better sometimes with two strikes," said Mets manager Willie Randolph. "I wish he'd go up there with that approach every time."

Still, it would be premature to assume the Mets are suddenly out of their slump, to dub Sunday's Yankee Stadium massacre the season's official low water mark. But if any game during June's dark stretch has the Mets primed for a turnaround, it's this one.

Heading into Monday as losers of 11 of their past 13, the Mets hadn't won by more than three runs since June 2, and they hadn't won back-to-back games since May. They won't necessarily do that now -- especially not with reigning Cy Young Award winner Johan Santana lurking in the wings -- but it's certainly a leap in the right direction.

Not that the Mets could really have gone in any direction other than up.

"I saw the team today different than other days," Beltran said. "We had a lot more energy. Today, we felt like we were having fun."
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VENUE: Shea Stadium

Usually, hard work ends slumps for baseball players. Minnesota Twins staff ace Johan Santana, however, is asking for more work to stop his.

The reigning AL Cy Young Award winner tries to avoid going winless for a fourth straight start Tuesday when the Twins continue their three-game series against the New York Mets at Shea Stadium.

Santana (6-6, 3.19 ERA) has pitched well in his last two starts - giving up five runs in 14 innings - but only has one loss to show for it. The left-hander limited the Atlanta Braves to two runs in seven innings Thursday to keep the Twins (34-34) close before they rallied for three ninth-inning runs in a 3-2 victory.

"That's the way it has been. There's nothing I can do. I just hope that my teammates will be able to score runs and put pressure on the opponent," Santana said after his last start.

The lack of run support has frustrated Santana, who has seen the Twins score three runs or less in 10 of his 14 starts, including a combined three in his last three appearances. He has lobbied Ron Gardenhire to increase his pitch count to go deeper into games, but his manager has steadfastly refused.

"I'm set in my ways, and I'm not going to go out and let Johan throw 150 pitches, even if he wants to," Gardenhire told the Twins' official Web site. "Obviously, if you are any kind of competitor at all, you want to go back out there. Guys don't want to come out. We have a pretty good system that's worked pretty well here for all of our pitchers. Johan has a pretty good career going, and I'd like to keep it going."

The good news for Santana, who has not gone four starts without a win since opening the 2006 season 0-3, is that he has thrived in interleague play - especially on the road. The left-hander is 7-1 with a 2.25 ERA in eight starts and 14 appearances at NL ballparks, including a victory at Shea Stadium in 2002.

He is 2-0 with a 1.38 ERA in two starts against the Mets, striking out 17 in 13 innings. Overall, Santana is 13-4 with a 2.36 ERA in 22 interleague starts.

In facing Santana, the Mets (38-30) have a difficult challenge in recording back-to-back wins for the first time this month. Carlos Delgado and Ricky Ledee each homered in Monday's series-opening 8-1 rout, just New York's fourth victory in the last 16 games.

Paul Lo Duca also delivered by hitting a key two-run single in the sixth inning to make it 4-0.

"I got a hit when it counted finally," said Lo Duca, who had gone nine games without an RBI. "That's the best game we've played in a long time. It's good to get everybody going."

Delgado is 4-for-10 against Santana, while Carlos Beltran is 6-for-22 (.273) with two homers. Jose Valentin, however, is 1-for-19 (.053) with nine strikeouts versus the left-hander.

Jorge Sosa (6-2, 3.42) looks to bounce back from his worst outing of the season when he takes the mound for New York Tuesday. The right-hander was tagged for six runs and eight hits in 5 2-3 innings of a 9-1 defeat to the Los Angeles Dodgers on Wednesday, ending a personal three-start winning streak.

Sosa has been masterful at home, though, going 3-0 with a 1.77 ERA in three starts. He has conceded just four runs in 20 1-3 innings in those outings.

Sosa has recorded 3 2-3 hitless innings spanning three relief appearances against the Twins.

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  AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg  
L. Castillo 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .313  
J. Mauer c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .309  
M. Cuddyer rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .299  
J. Morneau 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .277  
T. Hunter cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .302  
J. Cirillo 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .233  
J. Tyner lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .274  
J. Bartlett ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .243  
J. Santana p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000  
 Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0   
 NY Mets 
  AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg  
J. Reyes ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .320  
P. Lo Duca c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .301  
C. Beltran cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .265  
D. Wright 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .287  
C. Delgado 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .229  
D. Easley 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .260  
S. Green rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .297  
C. Gomez lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .268  
J. Sosa p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .143  
 Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0   
  IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA  
J. Santana  0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.19  
 NY Mets 
  IP H R ER BB K HR Season ERA  
J. Sosa  0.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.42



looks like rain here on long island maybe a storm later tonight
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^ Yea Scott, it's suppose to be a thunderstorm tonight, to cool off this to how weather. Hopefully it starts after the game is already over.
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