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post #1 of 2 (permalink) Old 01-06-2014, 02:17 AM Thread Starter
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Hall Of Fame Making Jack Morris' case for the HoF

It appears that Jack Morris won't be enshrined in the National Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, New York this summer, with this year being his last opportunity to be voted in by the Baseball Writers Association of America. The question is, why?

Morris was the winningest pitcher of the 1980's, a 254 game-winner, and he was a staff ace for multiple championship teams. These seem like Hall of Fame credentials, but he will have to wait for the Veterans Committee.

His ERA may be a bit high as well as a number of other advanced statistics, but why are we voting based on the way we look at pitchers in 2014 when Jack Morris pitched with a much different set of expectations.

Sparky Anderson, Morris' manager with the Detroit Tigers, didn't care about Morris' WHIP (Walks + Hits per Inning Pitched). What he cared about was that Morris gave the Tigers the best chance to win on any given day.

Morris was also an innings eater. From 1980-1992, he only pitched fewer than 235 innings in a season twice. This would wear down almost all of today's staff ace's.

Also, other players who are in the Hall of Fame didn't meet certain criteria for the type of player they were. Phil Rizzuto played shortstop for the New York Yankees from 1941-1942 and from 1946-1956. He had a solid glove with a below-average arm and was a mediocre hitter....
Full scoop: The Case Against Jack Morris for the Hall of Fame - 101 Baseball News

Jacob Winters makes great arguments and valid points.. suggest checking it out.

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Jack Morris won the World Series four times with three different teams: one in 1984 with the Detroit Tigers (where he and other Tigers teammates were carried by Alan Trammell the 1984 World Series MVP), one in 1991 with the Minnesota Twins (where he carried the whole Twins team en route to the 1991 World Series MVP), and two more in 1992 and 1993 with the Toronto Blue Jays (where he and other Jays teammates from both seasons were carried by Pat Borders in '92 and former Milwaukee Brewers' prolific star Paul Molitor in '93 respectively).

He also won the Babe Ruth Award twice (one in 1984 with Detroit, and another one with Minnesota in 1991), led the American League in regular season wins twice (one in 1981 shared with three other pitchers, and another one in 1992 with Toronto shared with Kevin J. Brown of the Texas Rangers), led the American League in total strikeouts delivered in 1983 with Detroit, a 6-time All-Star (5x with Detroit and 1x with Minnesota), and pitched a no-hitter on April 7, 1984 for Detroit.

There's no doubt that if Jack Morris were to be inducted to the Hall of Fame, he would have to go in as a member of the Detroit Tigers, given that he spent most of his playing career with them by 14 seasons before joining Minnesota, Toronto and Cleveland capped off with an uneventful spring training in 1995 with Cincinnati that was aborted. Donning a Reds uniform for a regular season game in '95 would've meant that Jack Morris was gonna play in the National League for the first time in his career.

Not to mention, Jack Morris (at least once) was an Opening Day pitcher for Detroit, Minnesota and Toronto. The only team he never officially was an Opening Day pitcher for, was the Cleveland Indians in 1994 where he had his last basic quality season (though his last real prime year was '92 with Toronto, '93 with Toronto was a poor and injury-plagued season).
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