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post #21 of 65 (permalink) Old 03-01-2012, 10:20 PM
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Ok. He is still the best. And will always be the best.


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Shoeless Joe Jackson (it's hard to believe that he was actively involved in the Black Sox scandal, considering he batted .375 in the series his teammates were throwing), Pete Rose (the career hit record is too big to pass up; he may have bet on baseball games, but I'm sure there are plenty of others in the same era who did it but didn't get caught), Lefty O'Doul (.349 career batting average is highest among players not eligible for the HOF; he didn't play the 10-year minimum to make it to the hall), possibly Albert Belle (posted the best overall offensive numbers of the '90s and only retired because of injuries; sure he was real surly and unpleasant to be around, but Ted Williams acted very similar for most of his career)

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Shoeless Joe Jackson (it's hard to believe that he was actively involved in the Black Sox scandal, considering he batted .375 in the series his teammates were throwing), Pete Rose (the career hit record is too big to pass up; he may have bet on baseball games, but I'm sure there are plenty of others in the same era who did it but didn't get caught), Lefty O'Doul (.349 career batting average is highest among players not eligible for the HOF; he didn't play the 10-year minimum to make it to the hall), possibly Albert Belle (posted the best overall offensive numbers of the '90s and only retired because of injuries; sure he was real surly and unpleasant to be around, but Ted Williams acted very similar for most of his career)
Hey Lou! I like your choices, expect for Pete Rose. As I said earlier, he DID cheat and he DID get caught. The MLB Rules explain clearly that you cannot bet on your MLB Baseball Games. Pete did and like JV said, He knew if He got caught he would be banned for life. He did it anyway, got caught, and was banned for life.


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The reason I like Pete Rose is because he is going in for his playing days accolades not what he did as a manager which is where he bet on the game.


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Hey Lou! I like your choices, expect for Pete Rose. As I said earlier, he DID cheat and he DID get caught. The MLB Rules explain clearly that you cannot bet on your MLB Baseball Games. Pete did and like JV said, He knew if He got caught he would be banned for life. He did it anyway, got caught, and was banned for life.
he did not cheat though.


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There is a difference between cheating and betting on the game. Yes betting on the game is prohibited so he violated the rules of the game, but like I said it was all done as a manager and not a player. He should go in as a player for sure.


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cheating would be giving a team a unfair advantage. he never did anything like that.


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cheating would be giving a team a unfair advantage. he never did anything like that.
I agree, he just bet on the game which was a violation of MLB rules.


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he also bet on his own team winning.


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