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DPETE56 07-30-2008 12:34 PM

I think a resume like this, well, speaks for itself.

Major League records:

Most career hits - 4,256
Most career outs - 10,328
Most career games played - 3,562
Most career at bats - 14,053
Most career singles - 3,215
Most career runs by a switch hitter - 2165
Most career doubles by a switch hitter - 746
Most career walks by a switch hitter - 1566
Most career total bases by a switch hitter - 5,752
Most seasons of 200 or more hits - 10
Most consecutive seasons of 100 or more hits - 23
Most consecutive seasons with 600 or more at bats - 13 (1968-1980)
Most seasons with 600 at bats - 17
Most seasons with 150 or more games played - 17
Most seasons with 100 or more games played - 23
Record for playing in the most winning games - 1,972
Only player in major league history to play more than 500 games at five different positions - 1B (939), LF (671), 3B (634), 2B (628), RF (595)

National League records:
Most years played - 24
Most consecutive years played - 24
Most career runs - 2,165
Most career doubles - 746
Most career games with 5 or more hits - 10
Modern (post-1900) record for longest consecutive game hitting streak - 44
Modern record for most consecutive hitting streaks of 20 or more games - 7
NL MVP Award (1973)
NL Rookie of the Year Award (1963)
17 All-Star selections
Three World Series rings (1975, 1976, 1980)
World Series MVP Award (1975)
Two Gold Glove Awards (1969 and 1970, both as an outfielder)
Roberto Clemente Award (1976)
The Sporting News Player of the Year (1968)
The Sporting News Sportsman of the Year (1985)
The Sporting News Player of the Decade (1970s)

Other Achievements:
WWE Hall of Fame inductee (2004)

DPETE56 07-30-2008 12:37 PM

To answer questioning, Rose bet on the games while being a player.

If you read his autobiography, you would have known that. :D

But he said that he never bet against the Reds. He bet seven days a week on the Reds to win because he loved the Reds and he did everything in his power every single night to help the Reds get a win.

cardsfan24 07-30-2008 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DPETE56 (Post 110697)
To answer questioning, Rose bet on the games while being a player.

If you read his autobiography, you would have known that. :D

But he said that he never bet against the Reds. He bet seven days a week on the Reds to win because he loved the Reds and he did everything in his power every single night to help the Reds get a win.

Well if you what you say is true and Pete Rose did bet on baseball during his playing days then he has no way to get into the hall no matter what he accomplished.

DPETE56 07-30-2008 03:28 PM

I just don't agree with that. People are bound to have different opinions on a subject such as this. If they can find that he didn't bet against the Reds, there is absolutely no reason to not allow him into the Hall of Fame. Even though that will be extremely difficult to determine, if it is proven he never bet against his team that doesn't challenge his integrity to the game and to the Reds while playing. Which also shouldn't exclude his name from HOF balloting and should have his name removed from the ineligible list.

I truly believe that he didn't bet against the Reds because of the way that he played. Obviously, some of the ways and natures of things that he did on the field while playing aren't custom things that other players were doing at the time, and that can be one indication that the guy cared so much about his team, that he wouldn't bet against them. He had an extra motivation to drive him to help his team win.

That's obvious to me simply identified by the way he played the game. He played it with an undeniable integrity to help the Reds win every game with motivation.

JPolito830 08-14-2008 11:33 AM

Absolutely he should be in the HOF...He has done his time, let him in already.

SmashEd 08-26-2008 11:36 AM

What he has done as a manager shouldn't affect how hard he worked as a player. So absolutely.

Kyle 09-01-2008 11:54 PM

no matter how much he messed up off the field, he definitely should be in the hall of fame. No question about it.

la_faker_81 09-03-2008 10:10 AM

Does he deserve it? Yes

Will he get it? No.

cityStatic 07-10-2009 04:22 PM

He's deserving in my opinion, but the way he acted off field, he def. won't get in.

Woops! Just realized the bump that I made.

eddy murphy1 08-20-2009 08:45 AM

Yes.. i agree


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