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That has to be the biggest load of crap I've seen since "Fahrenheit 9/11". Hopefully it's as much a satire as that was.
Let's break it down point for point.
Let's break it down point for point.
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All politics aside, his article was tripe.
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biggest power spike in baseball history...
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Do you have any hard evidence that I can't easily dismiss?
No.
Why drag a dead man's name through the mud for nothing? Is it a ruse to desensitize people to Bonds' obvious guilt? If you're doing it to make yourself look smart, your accomplishing the opposite. If you did it to get a rise out of someone, you may think you have succeeded. You would be wrong.
No.
Why drag a dead man's name through the mud for nothing? Is it a ruse to desensitize people to Bonds' obvious guilt? If you're doing it to make yourself look smart, your accomplishing the opposite. If you did it to get a rise out of someone, you may think you have succeeded. You would be wrong.
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Jerry Colemen, 2nd basemen of the Yankees, admitted that Gus Mauch gave him amphetamines. Gus Mauch was the trainer of the Yankee's during 1961.
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Amphetimines are not an anabolic steroid.
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I know, but it should be enough to break your brainwashed view of baseball being clean during this era.
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I know, but it should be enough to break your brainwashed view of baseball being clean during this era.
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No one ever said it was a clean era (I believe Willie Mays himself admitted to Amphetamine use). But still, amphetamines are completely different from steroids.
Amphetamines boost energy, they don't unnaturally build muscle mass.
This type of speculation is just moronic (no offense JayMick). With no possible way of ever knowing, besides obscure statistical figures, what evidence do you have? (By the way, how does Maris' figures resemble steroid users? How did you figure other users from the 1990's? Bonds, McGuire, Sosa all had steroid career numbers that weren't a three year span. Did you pretty much take all of their careers away, just leaving their beginning and end, which if you did this their average numbers would be ridiculously small with end and beginning numbers reducing each value. If you did this with practically any player in baseball history (with the possible exception of Hank Aaron), taking away their prime seasons and just leaving the average numbers from the rest of their careers, the numbers in their prime would be abnormally high.)
JayMick- "Ignoring the years both before and after his prime steroid year you can see the obviousness of his guilt."
"During the time when Maris played steroids were not illegal. Steroid use was also not considered a major form of cheating by the mainstream society."
Why would he have any reason to feel guilty then? You completely contradict yourself.
Now, I'm not saying that you couldn't possibly be right (even though I don't believe you), but why would you bring it up now? What's the possible reason?
JayMick- "I am not saying that he did anything wrong."
"...lets not ever talk about Roger Maris again so he can fade into history with other steroid users like Brady Anderson and Gregg Vaughn."
You just say he didn't do anything wrong. Why do you want to forget him now? This thread is laughable.
Amphetamines boost energy, they don't unnaturally build muscle mass.
This type of speculation is just moronic (no offense JayMick). With no possible way of ever knowing, besides obscure statistical figures, what evidence do you have? (By the way, how does Maris' figures resemble steroid users? How did you figure other users from the 1990's? Bonds, McGuire, Sosa all had steroid career numbers that weren't a three year span. Did you pretty much take all of their careers away, just leaving their beginning and end, which if you did this their average numbers would be ridiculously small with end and beginning numbers reducing each value. If you did this with practically any player in baseball history (with the possible exception of Hank Aaron), taking away their prime seasons and just leaving the average numbers from the rest of their careers, the numbers in their prime would be abnormally high.)
JayMick- "Ignoring the years both before and after his prime steroid year you can see the obviousness of his guilt."
"During the time when Maris played steroids were not illegal. Steroid use was also not considered a major form of cheating by the mainstream society."
Why would he have any reason to feel guilty then? You completely contradict yourself.
Now, I'm not saying that you couldn't possibly be right (even though I don't believe you), but why would you bring it up now? What's the possible reason?
JayMick- "I am not saying that he did anything wrong."
"...lets not ever talk about Roger Maris again so he can fade into history with other steroid users like Brady Anderson and Gregg Vaughn."
You just say he didn't do anything wrong. Why do you want to forget him now? This thread is laughable.
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Statistics are easy to manipulate and misinterpret. Here's the real statistical look at Roger Maris' 1961 season.
Using Quantum XL to Define Multiple Inputs Simultaneously
Using Quantum XL to Define Multiple Inputs Simultaneously
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