[Tony19]

Originally Posted by nyjyrk

Good to see some peeple can win with class. Why do Sox fans still act like Redheaded stepchildren. Good job, 2 WS wins in 4 years.....and 3 in the last 89. Only 19 to go.

Hey I wouldn't talk too much now, it's starting to seem like it'll be another 86 years until the Yankess win one, with your whole team falling apart in front of you. Maybe your Yanks should try developing talent apposed to buying it.

Go BoSox!

[rsoxfan]

Originally Posted by Tony19

Hey I wouldn't talk too much now, it's starting to seem like it'll be another 86 years until the Yankess win one, with your whole team falling apart in front of you. Maybe your Yanks should try developing talent apposed to buying it.

Go BoSox!

i love it so

[nyjyrk]

There was a well informed statement.

First, how is it falling apart?
Second, you do realize that the Yankees are developing within.
Third, like I said, only 19 to go.

[Tony19]

Originally Posted by nyjyrk

There was a well informed statement.

First, how is it falling apart?
Second, you do realize that the Yankees are developing within.
Third, like I said, only 19 to go.

1. No A-Rod, Posada, or Torre... That's three essential men to the Yankees organization that are gone/leaving.

2. Oh really? That's why you had to BUY Johnny Damon, A-Rod, Jason Giambi, and about everyone else on the lineup. Did you see that with Jacoby Elsbury? How about Jason Varitek?

3. Hey, Sorry, but the DiMaggio and Reggie Jackson eras are over... 2008 = a rebuilding year?

[rsoxfan]

Originally Posted by Tony19

1. No A-Rod, Posada, or Torre... That's three essential men to the Yankees organization that are gone/leaving.

2. Oh really? That's why you had to BUY Johnny Damon, A-Rod, Jason Giambi, and about everyone else on the lineup. Did you see that with Jacoby Elsbury? How about Jason Varitek?

3. Hey, Sorry, but the DiMaggio and Reggie Jackson eras are over... 2008 = a rebuilding year?

even if they sign some of there FAs back there are all old anyway lmao .

[nyjyrk]

Originally Posted by Tony19

1. No A-Rod, Posada, or Torre... That's three essential men to the Yankees organization that are gone/leaving.

2. Oh really? That's why you had to BUY Johnny Damon, A-Rod, Jason Giambi, and about everyone else on the lineup. Did you see that with Jacoby Elsbury? How about Jason Varitek?

3. Hey, Sorry, but the DiMaggio and Reggie Jackson eras are over... 2008 = a rebuilding year?

Posada hasn't left. He'll be signed within a couple of days. A-Rod is not essential. How does someone who gets 5 hits in the last four postseason series get to be considered essential.

We signed Damon, yes. So did you in 2001. A-Rod was via a trade for Soriano. Giambi was a free agent signing. So at least you got that right. Now lets look at the Red Sox. Ortiz(2003) was a free agent signing, as was ManRam (2000), Wakefield(1995), Lugo (2006), Drew (2006),Matsuzaka(2006) Tavarez (2006), Timlin (2003),Okajima (20060, etc., etc.....
Veritech was traded for, not drafted.
As for litteraly buying a contract, the Sox purchased Hinske's contract from the Blue Jays.
So don't even for a second think the Red Sox were built from within. They had a couple of rookies this year and a couple last year, that does not mean they were built via draft. Pedroia and Youkolis were the only regular starters to come up through the Sox's organization. They are a free agent created team with a few guys from your organization filling holes. Saying the Yankees should stop trying to buy a ring is EXTREMELY hypocritical. Cano, Jeter, Posada, Cabrera, Pettitte (originally), Rivera, Hughes, Chamberlain, etc. all came up through the Yankee's farm system. You need to do a little research, or at least know a little about baseball, before taking me on.

As for a rebuliding year, 2007 was a transition year (and we still made the playoffs). 2008 should be better with the amount of pitching we have coming up. It all hinges on how fast they will develop. By 2009 our staff will be the best in baseball, and not just for one season. Many scouts are comparing the situation the Yankees staff is going to be like the Braves of the 90s. Chamberlain, Wang, Hughes, Kennedy, and any number of guys to fill the #5 spot. When we got rid of Randy Johnson and Gary Sheffield last off-season, we got even more young talent from the Tigers and D-Backs.

[Tony19]

Originally Posted by nyjyrk

Posada hasn't left. He'll be signed within a couple of days. A-Rod is not essential. How does someone who gets 5 hits in the last four postseason series get to be considered essential.

We signed Damon, yes. So did you in 2001. A-Rod was via a trade for Soriano. Giambi was a free agent signing. So at least you got that right. Now lets look at the Red Sox. Ortiz(2003) was a free agent signing, as was ManRam (2000), Wakefield(1995), Lugo (2006), Drew (2006),Matsuzaka(2006) Tavarez (2006), Timlin (2003),Okajima (20060, etc., etc.....
Veritech was traded for, not drafted.
As for litteraly buying a contract, the Sox purchased Hinske's contract from the Blue Jays.
So don't even for a second think the Red Sox were built from within. They had a couple of rookies this year and a couple last year, that does not mean they were built via draft. Pedroia and Youkolis were the only regular starters to come up through the Sox's organization. They are a free agent created team with a few guys from your organization filling holes. Saying the Yankees should stop trying to buy a ring is EXTREMELY hypocritical. Cano, Jeter, Posada, Cabrera, Pettitte (originally), Rivera, Hughes, Chamberlain, etc. all came up through the Yankee's farm system. You need to do a little research, or at least know a little about baseball, before taking me on.

As for a rebuliding year, 2007 was a transition year (and we still made the playoffs). 2008 should be better with the amount of pitching we have coming up. It all hinges on how fast they will develop. By 2009 our staff will be the best in baseball, and not just for one season. Many scouts are comparing the situation the Yankees staff is going to be like the Braves of the 90s. Chamberlain, Wang, Hughes, Kennedy, and any number of guys to fill the #5 spot. When we got rid of Randy Johnson and Gary Sheffield last off-season, we got even more young talent from the Tigers and D-Backs.

Before anything, it's Varitek, not Varitech. Your naming all these players that Boston bought, but the Red Sox still are a development based team. None of the players mentioned were big names in the MLB when they went to Boston, they were polished by the coaching and BoSox organization. Unlike, Giambi, Randy Johnson, Sheffield, and tons more who were simply accquired by Steinbrener because they were big names. He dosen't know how to develop talent, so he buys it, and this goes back to the 70s. He has a great will to win, but theres better ways than with your bill fold.

Sorry for "taking you on," your heiness. I forgot your better than everyone on here because your a Yankee fan...

[nyjyrk]

Originally Posted by Tony19

Before anything, it's Varitek, not Varitech. Your naming all these players that Boston bought, but the Red Sox still are a development based team. None of the players mentioned were big names in the MLB when they went to Boston, they were polished by the coaching and BoSox organization. Unlike, Giambi, Randy Johnson, Sheffield, and tons more who were simply accquired by Steinbrener because they were big names. He dosen't know how to develop talent, so he buys it, and this goes back to the 70s. He has a great will to win, but theres better ways than with your bill fold.

Sorry for "taking you on," your heiness. I forgot your better than everyone on here because your a Yankee fan...

WHAT????
Manny Ramirez was a nobody, huh? Matsuzaka wasn't bought with $50m+ just to talk to him? Wakefield, Lugo, and Drew were all nobodys, right?
Can I get a hit of what you're smoking?
You should pass along your advice to the Red Sox upper management. 13 players who suited for the Sox this year came from your organization. That's out of 40. The Yankees suited up 25 out of 49 that came from the organization.

The Red Sox built thier team from the free agent market. Peroid.
Having a few guys on your roster that came from Pawtuckett doesn't mean you built from within. I'm not saying that the Yankees don't have many free agent players, but you saying that the Yankees need to do things another way because the Red Sox do things different is either misinformed or diliberately deceiving.

The Yankees' core players through the latest dynasty came from the organization. Jeter, Williams, Pettitte, Rivera, all were they key members that the Yankees built around with trades and free agents. The Red Sox built the team from the free agent market, and filled in with organizational product.

[Tony19]

Originally Posted by nyjyrk

WHAT????
Manny Ramirez was a nobody, huh? Matsuzaka wasn't bought with $50m+ just to talk to him? Wakefield, Lugo, and Drew were all nobodys, right?
Can I get a hit of what you're smoking?
You should pass along your advice to the Red Sox upper management. 13 players who suited for the Sox this year came from your organization. That's out of 40. The Yankees suited up 25 out of 49 that came from the organization.

The Red Sox built thier team from the free agent market. Peroid.
Having a few guys on your roster that came from Pawtuckett doesn't mean you built from within. I'm not saying that the Yankees don't have many free agent players, but you saying that the Yankees need to do things another way because the Red Sox do things different is either misinformed or diliberately deceiving.

The Yankees' core players through the latest dynasty came from the organization. Jeter, Williams, Pettitte, Rivera, all were they key members that the Yankees built around with trades and free agents. The Red Sox built the team from the free agent market, and filled in with organizational product.

Yeah bud, a good hit of reality IS nice, isn't it?

So Manny wasn't a nobody when he was signed, but J.D. Drew was just tearing it up with his TWO seasons over .300? Same with Julio Lugo, one year at .308 (with everything else sub .300), and he's madly popular? I think you're exaggerating just a bit here, cheif. And just because some of these guys weren't playing AAA ball in Pawtucket dosen't at all mean they weren't developed by the Red Sox organization. Like I just proved, they weren't exactly the top of the MLB when they came to Boston, the Sox just saw potential and signed the guys.

Now go back to your basking of the '77 playoffs, because nothing along those lines is happening anytime soon.

[nyjyrk]

The sad part of everything is, there are actually decent Red Sox fans out there. Good people with actual fact-based opinion. It's the lunatic fringe that makes most of them look bad. I prove them wrong, yet they still live in thier fantacy world. Go ahead, Tony. Live in denial that the Red Sox were assembled through the Free agent market.

Like I said, only 19 to go.