Thank you Kelzzy.
I think the problem is perhaps more than one item. I can't argue with your suggestion with the first baseman, IF all other things were also in line with your positioning.
The first thing of difference (Remembering I am NOT the manager dictating the play or where the pitcher goes) is he has the pitcher backing up third base, and not home plate. He has the pitcher backing up third base on the play mentioned. I don't mind this, but it does expose or lack any support on throws home, where we now have no backup.
He also has the SS go out for ANY cutoffs to left field, and never the third baseman. And we have the left/right fielder backing up any throws to second from the opposite side, keeping in mind that we are talking little league play here, and outfielders are not that deep, and we are not talking 90 foot base paths. (This is why I posted this in the little league forum)
Keeping all that in mind....I would never suggest that a player at this age (8-9-10) throw behind the runners, or attempt to get a runner in a run down while throwing behind runners on the basepath. This just invites overthrows, errors, and additonal runs, especially at this age group. Primary concern is the stoppage of play, and not allowing any further advanacement of runners. Getting the batter, with two runners in front of him, into a pickle, and thinking we are going to pick him off first or get him in a rundown, is the last thing in mind.
I agree with what you said, with the pitcher backing up home plate. But the head coach wants him backing up third. And on this particular play, for any hopes of ever making a play at home, (or the split decision that has a player throwing home when perhaps he should not) just exposes the team with more runs if there was a throw and it was of target or overthrown at home. The chances of that happening at this age level is far greater than any thought of throwing behind the runners, and getting the hitter, while leaving open the chance of further damage or advancement of the runners in front of him. And it leaves open the question of why not have the first baseman back up home for bad throws home, when we teach not to throw the ball around, or behind runners in the first place.
So from what you suggest, and I am not argueing, it looks like perhaps more than one player is out of the proper position from what we are doing, and what you are suggesting.
My angle was that we would never throw back to first anyways, even if the opportunity presents it, and put ourselves in a position of making a bad throw, and then having another runner scoring, keeping in mind the original play outlined.
Thank you so much for your comments.
Last edited by Bjornball; 11-12-2012 at 09:20 AM.