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So who thinks Biggio does NOT belong?

There are several out there that have said they think he has the numbers but that is due to the time he has played. Keep in mind...I am not one of them and think he does belong there along with Jeff Bagwell.

Thoughts?

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Pujolsfan91

i think whoever says he's out is dumb.. he's a UTIL player.. who has 3000 hits, gets beaned the most in the majors, has over 400 steals and 600 doubles.. i think thats a ticket to the hall.

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MSBraves

Biggio is in on first ballot!

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Barry Bonds is the greatest player to play the game of baseball with just this one record. He is the only man with 500 HR and 500 SB. No man is close nor will ever come close to breaking that record

DPETE56

3000 hits= Hall of Fame. Simple as that.

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Craig Messmer

Biggio is definitely a HOFer. He scored a ton of runs and was one of the better leadoff hitters in baseball for a long time. Check out Stat One @ Amazon.com--the book has some great commentary about this lifelong Astro.

nyjyrk

Biggio is a lock.
It will be good for baseball when the ultimate team player gets in. Anyone who plays at an all-star clip in three different positions with the defensive demands as he has, was known for situational hitting,and collects 3,000 hits in the process, deserves a bust in Cooperstown.
His numbers may be attributed to his longevity, but then again the argument could be made that he was good enough to play at that level for so long is a testement to how good he was. The same considerations that are made for players like Winfield, Yount, Molitor, Murray, etc. They accumilated the stats because they didn't lose their abilities as they got older.

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NYJYRK...
I couldn't agree more. Having someone like Biggio at the top of your lineup is invaluable. After Henderson, he was probably the best leadoff man of the past 20 years. He was the rare exception of a player who stayed in one place for the entirety of his career. I have him rated as one of the top 100 players of all time in my book, Stat One.

larsenlonestar

No Brainer, Lets Go Astros!!!!!

JollyDodger

Fans today have a whacky ideal of what a HOFer is. They seem to only want 500 HR guys. Craig Biggio is easily a first ballot Hall of Famer. There should really be no discussion.

In debating any player, I feel that if there's any doubt or consideration needed, then they're out. The Hall of Fame should be ultra-exclusive. Only let in the obvious players. Now I know different people have different opinions, but most educated people who know the game well can come to a decent consensus on who belongs and who doesn't. Raise the required % to 90 or so. Then it'd make it special again.

Domenic

I'll play devil's advocate here...

Craig Biggio was never a great player. He hit over .300 only four times in a twenty year career, topped 200 hits only once, and had a career line of .281/.363/.433. Moreover, his career playoff line is .234/.297/.323. His only real accomplishment is the career HBP record - which, needless to say, indicates tenacity, not talent.

Those Hall of Fame second basemen that Biggio compares favorably to were not first-ballot players - in fact, most of them waited for years to get into the Hall. Moreover, Biggio does not have the same resume as many of those players in pure name recognition (Nellie Fox and Johnny Evers, for example).

Overall, Biggio was good for a very long time... if you discount his last four or five seasons. I, for one, would prefer to see the Hall of Fame be a veritable 'A-list' of ballplayers... while this would involve removing a great deal of already enshrined players I cannot in good conscience say that another 'good' player deserves to gain entry simply because others already have.

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