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Old 02-13-2007, 09:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Now I know as we all do what he's going through but his #'s also are just undeniable. To date there isn't any "proof" that states and steriod use, so I ask what are your feeling about him and the HOF? First let me just point out a couple of things. Through 2006, Bonds is first in career walks (2,426) and intentional walks (645). He is 2nd in career home runs with 734, trailing only Hank Aaron who hit 755; Bonds also ranks 2nd in extra base hits (1,398), 3rd in at bats per home run (13.0), 6th in on-base percentage (.443), runs (2,152), slugging average (.608), and total bases (5,784), and 7th in RBIs (1,930). Bonds also tops the list of career home runs in the National League, having eclipsed Aaron's previous record of 733.

Through 2006 he also leads all active players in home runs, RBIs (1,930), walks (2,426), intentional walks (645), on-base percentage (.443), runs (2,152), games (2,860), extra base hits (1,398), at bats per home run (13.0), and total bases (5,784). At the same time he is 2nd in doubles (587), slugging average (.608), and stolen bases (509), 3rd in at bats (9,507) and hits (2,841), 4th in triples (77), and 8th in strikeouts (1,485).

Other records:

**In 1998, Bonds tied John Olerud for the National League record of 15 consecutive plate appearances reaching base. He tied this record again in 2003.

**In 2001, Bonds's slugging percentage of (.863) set a single-season record. He also slugged .812 in 2004, only the second time in history that a player has bettered .800 twice (Babe Ruth was the other, with .847 in 1920 and .846 in 1921, respectively).

**In 2002, Bonds amassed a .582 on-base percentage, breaking Ted Williams' 1941 record of .551. In 2004, Bonds finished with a .609 OBP, the only time a player has bettered .600 over a full season.

**In 2002, Bonds won the National League batting title with a .370 average, becoming the oldest player to win the honor for the first time. In 2004, he won his second batting title with a .362 average.
During the 2002 post-season, Bonds set the record for most home runs hit in a single post-season (8). Bonds hit .471 with 4 home runs and 13 walks (seven intentional) in the World Series, thereby slugging 1.294 with a .700 on-base percentage. The slugging percentage was a record; the on-base percentage was bettered only by Billy Hatcher in 1990.

**In 2004, Bonds set the single-season OPS record with a total of 1.422.

**In 2004, Bonds became the first player in history with more times on base (376) than official times at bat (373). This was due to the record number of walks, which count as a time on base but not a time at bat. He had 135 hits, 232 walks, and 9 hit-by-pitches for the 376 number.
Bonds has won the National League Player of the Month award thirteen times which is a record for either league. The next highest in either league is Frank Thomas who won the A.L. award eight times and the next highest total in the N.L. is only six held by George Foster, Pete Rose and Dale Murphy.
Bonds has the most trading cards issued of him than any other athlete in the world. According to an October 31 search on Beckett Online, the site catalogued 10,306 cards.

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Old 02-13-2007, 09:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Barry Bonds is a cheater and a disgrace to the game. NO WAY!!! He deserves in
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Old 02-13-2007, 10:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Now I know what is "assumed" and it is a good assumption. BUt you like me really don't know everyone that was allegedly doing this. For all we know it was a lot of people and he was still THAT much better then everyone. Until he gets caught with something I can't assume anything to keep a guy away from the HOF
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I would bet my life,car,and house that he did the juice
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Old 02-13-2007, 10:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Oh I would too lol. I am just saying that how far does it go? How far does baseball look for cheaters and when does it stop? We can all pretty much say he did but in a "steroid era" something has to be said for how dominate he was, doesn't it?
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Yeah I know that probably half the players did it but i think that Jose, Barry, Mark and Sammy don't belong just because they brought it too a new level
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The guy makes me sick, especially when i hear him breaking Ted Williams records. All or most of the guys in there did it without the help of steroids which are not only illegal in baseball but illegal by LAW. The guy is a disgrace to the game of baseball and i hope he never gets a coaching job when he retires, he'll infect the game with more steroids by giving them to his players. NO WAY IN HELL HE DESERVES IN!!!
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Bonds has really digraced baseball. But You cant deny the talent this guy has i mean steriods only do so much. When he broke the single season hhr record and the year after his ability to hit the few pitches he got was amazing. Still though he pisses me off.
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Yeah I know that probably half the players did it but i think that Jose, Barry, Mark and Sammy don't belong just because they brought it too a new level
But even they didn't dominate the game like Barry did. It wasn;t that he was even one demensional, he was a 5 tool player for sure.
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The guy makes me sick, especially when i hear him breaking Ted Williams records. All or most of the guys in there did it without the help of steroids which are not only illegal in baseball but illegal by LAW. The guy is a disgrace to the game of baseball and i hope he never gets a coaching job when he retires, he'll infect the game with more steroids by giving them to his players. NO WAY IN HELL HE DESERVES IN!!!
They are illegal but me and you may know, but he has never tested positive for them. How and if he will are different and right now all we can do is assume. I think a lot of his bad rep is because he is an a-hole and people are just attacking him. And even like you are saying in the last sentance, he is not providing people with it like Selig wants people to think.
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