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Originally Posted by Outlaw43
With all due respect, just thinking about the idea of Edwar Ramirez taking over for Mo is going to give me a panic attack. Edwar's a gimmick middle innings guy who will only be effective until big league hitters get more tape on him and figure out his changeup.
I think that Joba should be put in the bullpen for a couple of reasons. 75 games is more valuable than 30 games (less actually because Joba will be capped at 150 innings next year.) The Yankees have a definite need in the bullpen and Joba's shown that he can fill it--the value of a dominant setup man (and dominating closer, a role that I hope Chamberlain will eventually fill) is wildly underrated. To prove that, check out the digging that Nick Kendall at Bugs & Cranks did on Cincinatti last year:
But even past that, I'm not convinced that Joba will be as dominating a starter as he was a reliever. He's shown that he has a great four seam fastball and a plus slider, but that's pretty much it. You need more than two good pitches to be a #1 starter, even if they are great pitches.
Either way Joba will be an incredibly valuable part of the Yankees staff next season, but I definitely believe that he is more valuable to them out of the pen. |
Yes he only showed two pitches last year because that is what you do out of the bullpen. How many relievers do you know that throw four pitches. According to scouting he has 3 plus major league pitches i.e. curve, fastball, slider, and his changeup is league average and still in developmental stages. However, this will be a controversy that will never be resolved until he is put in either role long term and succeeds for the simple fact that there are those who say what good is a closer if you can't get to him with your starters, and others that say what good is a starter if you can't finish the games. So like you said, he will most definately be a valueble piece in the Yankee cog no matter the time of game he pitches, it's just impossible to positively determine where he is more valuable. What a problem to have
